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remember, all the proceeds go to a scholarship fund for the children of slain heroes, so the only place you can give these gifts, that is all the time we have this evening. thanks for being with us. we will see you tomorrow. greta: tonight, wait a second. did we hear this right? >> that crowd out there that the president chose to address, and i think that was interesting. he went to maybe to the enemy camp tonight to make his case. sgreta kr: "enemy camp?" what did he mean? >> the review is now complete. and as commander in chief, i have determined that it is in our vital national interests to send an additional 30,000 u.s. troops to afghanistan.
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after 18 months, our troops will begin to come home. these are the resources that we need for this initiative while building the afghan capacity to allow for a responsible transition of our forces out of afghanistan. taken together, these additional american and international troops will allow us to accelerate handing of the responsibility to afghan forces and allow us to begin the transfer of our forces out of afghanistan in july 2011. just as we have done in iraq, we will execute this transition responsibly, taking into account conditions on the grounds. we will continue to advise and assist afghan security forces to make sure they can succeed over the long haul, but it will be clear to the afghan government and more importantly to the afghan people that they will ultimately be responsible for their own country. greta: we are live in washington for a special "on the record,"
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and we have a packed record. dr. henry kissinger joins us. why is it so important that we stay and win this war? >> it is important for the reasons president obama mentioned, that otherwise afghanistan becomes another headquarters for al qaeda operations, a base for al qaeda operations. it is important also because of the stability of pakistan, crucial for the stability of pakistan, but beyond that, it is radical jihadis driving us out. that would move the frontier of that country to the border of india and other regions, so i think the policy that was announced today deserves
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support. greta: why did not the soviet union win? why did they pick up and leave instead of fighting to the end to win? >> the soviet union failed in part because it attempted to cover all of afghanistan from a central headquarters and tried to make the afghan government run over the whole country. nobody has ever succeeded in doing that. my understanding and what i unpleased hope is happening is that we are conducting a counterinsurgency operation, not an exercise in nation-building so much as an exercise in enabling various regions of afghanistan to reestablish security, reestablish local government, and then, eventually, it even after we have left, bind themselves together into a national
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government, which has never fully existed in afghanistan. greta: so as i understand you correctly, we basically have to make sure that the afghan government is not corrupt. how do you make them not corrupt? >> no, i do not agree with that statement. i believe it is a swap that we cannot drain to assume we can create a government in kabul. we should put the emphasis the other way around. we should try to create local governments and regional governments based on the various tribes and ethnic groups, and if they can create a viable system, then we can go on from there to have an effective national government. but we cannot judge the success.
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we are fighting for the national security of the united states and the stability of a region which is essential to national security of the united states, and i would like to make another point. we talk about our nato allies, and there are others. china, india. as our strategy evolves, they have to be brought into not so much the military effort but the political effort to create a legal status for afghanistan where the evolution can take place. i must say that i do not like the fact that a deadline has been given for our effort, and i hope it is given as a hope
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rather than a commitment. greta: you raised the issue of india, and i know that india has been beneficial in afghanistan, but even greater problems because pakistan hates to see us so chummy with india, they fear that for some reason they get a better foothold, that is going to create even more tension between both india and pakistan? >> there are two aspects to this. i am not talking about an indian military presence in afghanistan, but there are many civilian efforts that can be conducted. of course, the best contribution pakistan can make to avoid any contingency like this is to support wholeheartedly the eradication, and then the issue of what role india would play in that conflict, because the conflict will die out.
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greta: secretary kissinger, thank you very much, sir. always good to see you. >> always a pleasure. greta: a general joins us live in washington with more. general, after listening to the president tonight, what is the plan? >> weihl quick, let me see if i can make it out. really, there are two centers of gravity in this war, a primary one in the south in kandahr, and the other is -- south in kandahar -- real quick. and if we can go to the next maps, i will show you this. this is kandahar city, the spiritual heartland of the taliban. they view this as their capital, as sort of their ethnic center of gravity, and a city just to
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the west in the river valley, lashkar gah, that is where the poppies are grown. this will have a total force of 20,000, and this will allow the contingent beginning in march and april to get control of the cities, the roads that go into the cities, and the surrounding countryside. greta: ok, let's say in that we have whereas yao ming success there, going further deeper into pakistan -- let's say we have a enormous success there. many of them are very sympathetic to the taliban, to al qaeda. that is not good for us, as a nuclear-powered country. that is not good for us. their president is weakened. that is not good for us. we have just given them $7.50 billion in aid, and the country is suspicious of us, and they are not liking us. we are just there, so pakistan
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is not real chummy with us, and we need their help. >> this is really not a war for afghanistan. this is really a war for pakistan, and if we do not establish a strategic alliance with the pakistanis, if we do not get their army up to speed, if we do not nudge them into giving up their relationships, particularly with al qaeda in pakistan, and virtually anything we do in pakistan is going to be wasted because pakistan and the tribal areas in pakistan are ready enemies' -- are where the enemies' power base is. greta: they are infiltrated. india gets angry with us because they do not understand why in the world we would give $7.50 billion of aid to a country that is nothing but a hotbed for growing terrorists against india and against us.
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>> i do not care if they are not happy with us. we have only in the last six months, with the pakistani offensive in the tribal areas, for the first time, we have a pakistani army and others that realize that their interests are the same as ours. they still do not like us. greta: sympathetic to the extremists. i use the term "like us" loosely. sympathetic to the extremists. it is pakistani government false, and they have a weak president, we have huge problems -- if this pakistani government falls. >> is about converging national interests. -- it is about that. greta: the rational view point that we have.
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a lot of people there, not the discussion you and i have. when it is a hotbed of hate, and there are pockets there that heat and want to destroy, that is a problem, especially if they have sympathizers in the military. >> the nightmare is a radical islam isn't tied to nuclear weapons. that is what keeps us awake at night -- radical islam tied to nuclear weapons. greta: the extremists do have buddies in the intelligence service and the military. that is a fact, and that is an enormous problem for our country. >> it is. the president was right to talk about this as one-third of his strategic stool. we cannot maintain a strategic relationship with the pakistanis unless we're able to clear out the taliban strong points and afghanistan.
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look, there is no afghanistan or pakistan to the pashtuns. it is all their country. greta: thank you. coming up, nothing better than eyes on the ground. a republican congressman who was just in afghanistan goes on the record. you get an inside story next. plus, big news for former governor sarah palin. she has just joined a club with secretary of state clinton and president obama.
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greta: the decision has been made, and now the country begins to implement it. congressman price joins us live. it is always a different going someplace been hearing about it or reading about it. what was different for you? >> we spend thanksgiving with the troops, which was phenomenal, -- we spent thanksgiving with the troops. what i saw was a desolate nation. it is hard to describe until you get there, but our troops are fighting just as hard as they can to accomplish the mission. greta: the beimel route? >> more al is pretty good, but they wanted the state to, -- greta: morale? >> morale is pretty good, but
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they wanted this date to come. greta: looking at the way the president outlined it tonight, what are your thoughts on is outlined? >> i think there was a disconnect tonight. i think he outlined the risk pretty darn well. but then, there seem to be a remarkable disconnect with him saying birchen within one sentence, we are going to start this operation, and we are going to end it with a period of 18 months -- with him saying within one sentence both things. greta: you heard what the general scales said a few moments ago. we think about afghanistan and pakistan, but they do not see it as a border. there is no border with the two nations necessarily, and that is what makes this a troubling, because this really does involve pakistan. >> we think of two or three
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crossings, but there are over 250 trails, so you are right, it is not just afghanistan. it is the entire area. greta: was general mcchrystal like? >> i thought he was very candid. -- what was general mcchrystal like? >> i thought he was very candid. i did not see the commitment out of the president that i saw with the troops on the ground. greta: what were you looking for that you did not get? >> passion, it resolved that says that this is a true threat to the united states, -- a resolve that says that. he did say that, but then he says we would accomplish it in 18 months. nobody believes we can accomplish it in 18 months. general mcchrystal does not think he can do it in 18 months.
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greta: i can tell you what surprised me about what the president said. he said that there has never been before him a call for troops before 2010, and i thought, why in the world do you make an excuse for that? it obviously got under his skin that they had been critical that he had taken a number of months, and this is a tough decision and not an easy one. >> he spent the majority of his speech, it appeared to me, making excuses as to why we could not do x, y, or z. greta: a lot of people compare this to vietnam, but this is so vastly different. 30 years ago, people did not export terrorism to the united states, so it is different, and you did not have a neighbor like pakistan to afghanistan. it is a very different war. >> it is, and that is what i think you need more, and at the strategy. i was so impressed with general
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mcchrystal -- you need a more comprehensive strategy. this is so that al qaeda, remember, the mission is to make certain that we degrade the ability of al qaeda to ever threaten the american people again. greta: pushing them into pakistan, that is just the beginning. anyway, we have got to go. thank you. up next, tiger woods is in trouble with the law. that news for tiger, right? and the party crashers are speaking out, saying they were actually invited to the state dinner. the couple in their own words. green shoots. recovery. they say with fingers crossed that the worst is behind us. maybe it's time to get back in the market. but different this time. with more control. and more freedom.
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greta: billionaire golfer tiger was just got slapped with a ticket of $164. the florida highway patrol spoke about his mysterious car crash. >> the florida highway patrol has concluded its investigation of the crash involving mr. tiger woods. the investigation has determined
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that mr. woods was responsible for the crash. they are issued a citation for careless driving to mr. woods. mr. woods has satisfied the requirements of florida law by providing his driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance to us. with the issuance of this citation, the florida highway patrol has completed its investigation into this matter. fhp is not pursuing criminal charges in this matter, nor is there any evidence or testimony to support any additional charges of any kind other than the charge of careless driving. after reviewing the evidence available to us and in consultation with the state attorney's office, it was determined that there was insufficient evidence available to issue a subpoena for any medical information that might exist in this case. we cannot speak to the existence of any blood evidence. there are no claims of domestic
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violence by any individual. greta: tiger woods' neighbors rushed out to help pimm after the crash and called 911, and today, the lawyer for the neighbors tried to clear things up -- rush out to help him after the crash. >> her being concerned about her injured husband, not anything else. she was upset, did not know what to do, and was concerned about the welfare of mr. woods, and not anything else. >> did they feel that the warfighting, the two, tiger and his wife? -- did they feel that they were fighting? >> no. >> the implication was, was he beat up with a golf club? that is what everybody wants to know. no, none of his injuries looked
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like he had been beaten up by his wife. greta: joining us live is a reporter. it sounds like the neighbors think that there is nothing unusual accept a wife worried about a husband, but still, where was he going at that time of the morning -- nothing unusual except a y for about a husband -- a wife worried about a husband, but where was he going at that time of the morning? >> there were no complaints about domestic violence. it looks like this thing is really over with just a ticket. greta: am i the only one that is only curious? as to where he was going, and was seagoing at a faster rate of speed that he lost control and
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hit a fire hydrant -- and he was going at a faster rate? >> there are definitely people asking questions. they would definitely like to know why he was leaving his house at that morning. it is not exactly usual behavior for him, but it is no legal problem for him to leave at that hour. nobody is really looking into that, although the questions are still being asked, and the speculation is always running rampant, as they do in this situation. the police really consider the matter closed. greta: gloria allred has jumped into this to represent a woman who has denied having an affair with tiger woods, and i assume tiger woods likewise denies having an affair. are these put to rest? >> are the rumors put to rest? no, people will still be talking about this for a while. there will be some people who will not let it go, however,
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everyone involved is denying it, and that includes tiger woods, who is denying it, and the woman, whom he allegedly had an affair with, so with all of that closed out, it really looks like there is not much more for this to go anywhere, unless more comes out, more supposed evidence of an affair that really keeps people questioning, and if that is to happen, someone is going to want to make a statement one way or another, because i think there is just an interest in it that people will not let it go, especially if little tidbits keeps coming out. greta: everybody has an enormous amount of interest in him. thank you. up next, speaking of crash, the couple who crashed a white house dinner break their silence. you will hear from them next. plus, there is breaking news in the white house case. and then, will former governor sarah palin soon be hanging out
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with president obama and secretary of statete
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greta: well, were they invited, or not? there is word tonight about the infamous party crashers. the associate press reported they went to the state dinner without an invitation. the associated press says they obtained an email between the couple and an official said
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hours after the party, and the couple admits they went without an invitation, hoping they would get it before. just this morning, the couple insisted they were invited. >> invited, not crashers, and there is not anyone who would have the audacity or the poor behavior to do that. the white house is "the" house, and no one would do that. >> we are going to be coming up to new york city, and we are going to show you documentation from emails that you will get a chance to see. it has been devastating, what has happened to michaele and i, our friends, colleagues, business partners. our lives have been destroyed. >> everything we worked for,
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matt, for me 44 years is destroyed. greta: the couple did not want to talk, at least not to griff. >> mr. salahi, who invited you? >> is the white house lying? are they lying, sir? can you give us a name? is a white house lobbying? -- is the white house line? can we talk to you for a second? -- is the white house lying? who invited you? sir? mr. salahi? is the white house lying, sir? greta: joining us is anita. this would be quite funny if it
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were not that the president was there. >> this is about the protection of the occupants and the guests at the white house, and is getting more confusing by the moment, and i think we have to wait -- and it is getting more confusing by the moment. greta: first of all, white in the world would they try to crash a party like that? -- why in the world? and they have protected the president and the one before. i am stunned. i do not know how in the world they could have gotten by. >> well, we do not know that yet, and the director of the secret service is very quick to admit that it was the secret service's responsibility, so they must know a number of details, and they will be uncovered at the right time. it is hard to believe. we do not ever want to see it
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happen again. they should say that we are going to look at their procedures. although it is the secret service responsibility, as they have admitted, and that the white house look at their procedures to. at these events, there are a lot of people coming in. this is to make sure that things like this do not happen. greta: this was so bad that at least i bet everybody is going to be twice as protective of the president from here on in. if nothing else, it is a huge wake-up call, because all of our presidents are targets. >> and it is unfortunate, too. greta: all rights, you have been to afghanistan. you're interested what is going on there. what are your thoughts? >> i thought after the speech
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today, the president reminded america that al qaeda and its terrorist network are out to get us. the taliban regime is a brutal and oppressive. -- is a brutal and repressive -- is brutal and repressive. greta: how? explain this. >> the taliban do not want women to be educated. they have a right to be educated. they were denied that. they were denied being able to go out of their house, denied basically be able to wear makeup, but even more important than that, women are threatened. their security is threatened. their lives are threatened. under the taliban, and this is hard for women to believe here, and they need to be reminded of this, having a baby by caesarean
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section with no anesthetic. it is incomprehensible. greta: beyond our national security, this is the most oppressive type of environment for the women. >> and the children. greta: and children, and also the men who are not sympathetic to the taliban. >> absolutely. there was a group of seven women here as part of a project that u.s. aid sponsored -- usaid sponsored. they were here for a two-week leadership conference. it was astounding. these are the most courageous people in the world, the women in afghanistan. they want to be full participants in society. one woman in the education ministry brought children underground during the years of the taliban. it is unbelievable. greta: anita, thank you.
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up next, one of the popular guys on capitol hill. everybody wants him. ben nelson. both want and need his vote on the health-care bill. bottom line, what will sway his vote? plus, is vice president biden a white house party crasher? and stephen colbert is coming up.
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. we now return to "on the record greta van susteren." thank you for watching the fox news channel.
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dench greta: nelson is popular. -- greta: ben nelson is popular. he has a key but that could make or break a bill in the senate, so what is he going to do? we asked him. senator, nice to see you. >> thank you. greta: senator, what would it take for you to vote on this senate bill? what does the senate have to do to this bill? >> well, the senate has to make a lot of changes. the public option would have to be changed dramatically or dropped from the bill. the class act, which is the community assistance program that the cms said would be financially upside down in a very short time, that needs to be out of the bill, and we have to put the language into the senate bill to make certain that no federal dollars are used directly or indirectly to fund abortions, so that was a whole
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host of other issues, such as the tax on medical devices, the tax on insurance, that are nothing more than a sales tax on policyholders. >> is medicare going to get cut, and how much? -- greta: is medicare going to get caught? >> what happens is that medicare actually reimburses hospitals and doctors less over a 10-year period of time. that so-called savings to medicare because it is money that medicare does not have to pay out, and those are, medicare cuts, but medicare is not scheduled to be cut for benefits to the medicare recipients. greta: now, i know he will make the decision based on what you think is best for your state.
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even the lincoln newspaper says that the cost estimates cannot be trusted and they are pulling -- fooling around with the numbers? the numbers are not quite exact. but in light of the fact that your state seems to have so much problems with the way the accounting for this bill goes, how can you ever vote for it? >> well, i do not know that i can. the cloture motion, the motion to proceed, to get it onto the floor, is altogether different than voting for a cloture motion to get it off of the floor. each takes 60 votes. getting it on to the floor does not automatically mean it gets off of before, and i have seen such percentages thrown around. well, once it gets on the floor,
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it almost always gets off of the floor. this is unique, and i do not think they should apply the history of the past to this present situation because this is altogether different. greta: in the way the bill is now, tell me if i am correct on this, that it is a 10-year revenue stream? the cbo and how much can be collected, but that the service part of it is only six years? the delivery? >> i think that is the way it works because the revenue comes out almost immediately, and then the actual effect of the bill does not go into effect for an extended period of time. there has been a criticism.
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that is a legitimate point to be made. greta: can you vote for any bill that has that mechanism in that period of time, and it does not start until later? is that something that satisfies you? >> look, i do not like that, but that would be just one of the things. it has got a robust government- run public option that the states have to opt out, i cannot vote for. if we do not have the stupeck- type language in the bill, i could not vote for it. if the class was not in there, i would not vote for it. but there are other issues, as well. it would put an added burden ion nursing homes. there is a plan to dig billions of dollars out of current
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reimbursements for nursing homes over the next 10 years -- there is a plan to take billions of dollars out. there are so many problems with this. it is very unlikely that the senate can solve all of these, but the bill is here, there will be amendments offered. i am planning to bring with some other is the stupeck-type language to make sure that federal funding neither directly nor indirectly can be used for funding abortions, so we will see what we can do, and at the end of that process, i can make my decision as to whether or not i will be that 60th vote or one of those votes to get off of the floor. at the present time, as the bill as is, as presented, i would not vote to get it off of the floor. greta: i am correct in saying that you and senator biden looked at as much differently than those senators that have
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never been governors? -- you and senator evan bayh? am i right in that did you sort of a different approach to this? >> i think it does, yes, greta. i think it gives us a different perspective. if you have had to run a state, if you have had to be in the executive branch, you begin to think about the taxes and the matches. you begin to worry about the cbo numbers. if they are off 10% in $1 trillion, and this is off $900 billion, that is off $90 billion, and that is not pocket change, even in washington, so there is a lot of concern about how it is put together, and i think that comes from having sat in the corner office at the state capital, worrying about those things, trying to put budgets together, and thinking
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it's the end of the day, if things go to get there. greta: so there is a difference between voting on in washington. >> certainly, and there is the government-run robust public option. it is easy to say that, and it is easy to cast a vote for that in comparison to trying to implement that, and there is some belief that washington can do something different than the private sector. i am not one that believes that is the case. i do not believe that washington is always wasteful in its spending. there are things that are done quite well around here, but not everything, and, consequently, i think senator evan bayh and i both and some others are really concerned about the numbers and where it all and up at the end of the day. greta: senator, thank you, sir. good luck, sir. >> thank you. greta: up next, the best of the rest.
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president obama, governor palin, and secretary clinton, together at last? and a member of our legal panel is running for office. who is it? who is it?
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greta: you have seen our top stories, but here is the rest. palin does platinum. her book "going rogue" has now sold more than 1 million copies, and that does put sarah palin in other company. there is former president clinton's book, president obama's "audacity of hope," and secretary clinton's.
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and someone is running for office. who are we talking about? pam bondi. she has been a member of our legal panel many, many times. she has two opponents in the gop primary in florida, and we will, of course, be watching this raise a very carefully. and fred henderson resigned today. -- we will be watching this race very carefully. the white house says the right decision was made by the board of directors. the gm board chairman will take over until a permanent ceo is found, and there you have it, the best of the rest. but still ahead, your last call, one more quick round before we turn down the lights. did you know vice-president biden was part of the caper with
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the party crashers? not exactly. stephen colbert has the report.
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greta: midnight, it is almost here. last call. stephen colbert has the inside scoop on the infamous party
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crashers. >> everybody is talking about the party crashers at the obama state dinner. amateur hour at the white house. i mean, let's joe biden in? and all of this just to get on "the real housewives of delaware." it was worth it, joe. greta: well, we have not heard that. the lights are blinking, and we are closing down shop. we will see you again tomorrow at our normal time, it 10:00 p.m. eastern. now, go to and go to the blue oval. click it, and you can join the rest of us for a behind-the- scenes. we are talking all about the show, and we have special video on it gretawire that you will see no more else. that is the green oval. keep it right here, fox news channel, the most powerful name in news. good night from was


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